Penrose & Geisler Summary:
In their article "Reading and Writing Without Authority", Penrose and Geisler conducted a study on two different people and their writing styles. One of the people was a freshman English student, whose name was Janet, and a philosophy doctorate student, Roger. Janet and Roger were bother asked to write a paper on paternity. Once they were done, their overall context and the authority that was used in each paper. They concluded that the older you get, the more confident you get in your writings. I think the main purpose of this article was to be able to show the difference in authority with a freshman English student and a philosophy doctorate student.
QD: 3-5
3. Janet is basically in the same boat as us. She had just graduated from high school and is now a freshman in college and she probably doesn't have much knowledge on the topic so she probably gets most/all of her information from books and the Internet. I'd say she did this just because of the fact that she doesn't have the prior knowledge that she needs to make a good paper. Roger on the other hand may not need to do all this research because he probably has better knowledge.
4. I'd say she'd choose the published author over herself because the author is obviously published and is more reliable in her eyes than her own self. If she were to come up with something on her own, then she doesn't really know if it's true or not, and because this author is published, then she may just trust that it's true and go with that instead of her own thoughts.
5. My writing is definitely more like Janet's. I believe this just because I'm also a freshman in English and I look up research all the time through the Internet and books because I don't have a lot of knowledge on things that we have to write about. It would be nice to be like Roger, but it would require me to have a lot of knowledge and the good writing skills like him to be able to sit down and write an amazing paper.
MM:
I believe the next time I sit down and write a paper, I'm going to try to be more confident in my writing and focus more on how I actually write. I know that when I'm reading a paper or article and I can tell that the author(s) is pretty confident in what they're saying, then that kind of adds more credibility and it's more enjoyable to read because their own views and opinions get put into it.
Response:
Overall, I think this was a good article for us to read, just because it shows that the more time and effort that you put into a paper, the better it will come out. Writing isn't an easy thing to do and it takes a lot of time and practice to become really good at and we need to be more confident in our writings to become better writers.
Sunday, February 26, 2012
Thursday, February 23, 2012
Feb. 24th Homework
Wardle Summary:
In her article "Identity, Authority, and Learning To Write In New Workplaces", Elizabeth Wardle argues that many people do not fully understand how much identity and authority really effect and influence our writings. She gives a few examples of each to show how they both play a big factor in the way that we write. Towards the end of her article, she gives a pretty good example of a man named Alan and how difficult it was for him to learn to write in a new workplace because he wasn't familiar with their ways of writing.
QD: 3-7
3. I think the main reason as to why Allen didn't have any positive results is because he liked the way he wrote and the way he was and he did not want to change for the workplace, therefore making it so there wasn't really any positive results.
4. I agree, because there is a lot of things that people say before they really think about it. Sometimes this really gets some people in trouble because things that they say often come out the wrong way than they actually meant for it to come out, so if they would've thought about it before they said it, then it would've came out much better.
5. I would have to agree with Gee, because Alan was put into a new discourse community and didn't want to change his ways for them, therefore making himself not a part of the discourse community.
6. I do sort of see Alan as a tool, because he was mainly used for facts and data for Wardle when he clearly wasn't a part of this discourse community.
7. A time I can recall is my senior year of high school, my AP social studies teacher was a pretty respected guy in our school and one day he swore and yelled at one of my classmates and it really made our respect for him drop significantly.
AEI: 1
To me, when it comes to having authority in texts, people really depend on the fact that you're a credible source, therefore believe in basically everything your saying in your writing. When it comes to having authority in a discourse community, the people within the community look up to you and believe in basically everything you have to say. Whenever I write, I try my absolute best to make it as credible as I possibly can by showing sources to give myself some credibility. An example of myself being authoritative was my high school volleyball team. I have played volleyball since my 7th grade year all the way through my senior year and I was captain of my team 3 out of the 4 years I played in high school because people really looked up to me because I'm really big on practicing what I preached. I always strived to be the absolute best I could be, along with making the team better, and I believe that was pretty inspirational to my other teammates.
Reflection:
I really enjoyed this article because it was pretty relatable to students and it gave a great example of someone who didn't agree with the discourse community he was out into, therefore refused to change himself for anyone, which shows that he truly believes in what he was taught.
In her article "Identity, Authority, and Learning To Write In New Workplaces", Elizabeth Wardle argues that many people do not fully understand how much identity and authority really effect and influence our writings. She gives a few examples of each to show how they both play a big factor in the way that we write. Towards the end of her article, she gives a pretty good example of a man named Alan and how difficult it was for him to learn to write in a new workplace because he wasn't familiar with their ways of writing.
QD: 3-7
3. I think the main reason as to why Allen didn't have any positive results is because he liked the way he wrote and the way he was and he did not want to change for the workplace, therefore making it so there wasn't really any positive results.
4. I agree, because there is a lot of things that people say before they really think about it. Sometimes this really gets some people in trouble because things that they say often come out the wrong way than they actually meant for it to come out, so if they would've thought about it before they said it, then it would've came out much better.
5. I would have to agree with Gee, because Alan was put into a new discourse community and didn't want to change his ways for them, therefore making himself not a part of the discourse community.
6. I do sort of see Alan as a tool, because he was mainly used for facts and data for Wardle when he clearly wasn't a part of this discourse community.
7. A time I can recall is my senior year of high school, my AP social studies teacher was a pretty respected guy in our school and one day he swore and yelled at one of my classmates and it really made our respect for him drop significantly.
AEI: 1
To me, when it comes to having authority in texts, people really depend on the fact that you're a credible source, therefore believe in basically everything your saying in your writing. When it comes to having authority in a discourse community, the people within the community look up to you and believe in basically everything you have to say. Whenever I write, I try my absolute best to make it as credible as I possibly can by showing sources to give myself some credibility. An example of myself being authoritative was my high school volleyball team. I have played volleyball since my 7th grade year all the way through my senior year and I was captain of my team 3 out of the 4 years I played in high school because people really looked up to me because I'm really big on practicing what I preached. I always strived to be the absolute best I could be, along with making the team better, and I believe that was pretty inspirational to my other teammates.
Reflection:
I really enjoyed this article because it was pretty relatable to students and it gave a great example of someone who didn't agree with the discourse community he was out into, therefore refused to change himself for anyone, which shows that he truly believes in what he was taught.
Final Paper #3 Cover Letter
For this project, we were mainly trying to show how people have different ways to learn about literacy. Our main purpose was to show that different people had different ways and literary sponsors that taught them how to read and write.We conducted interviews with 6 students and an librarian from Ohio University, whom were all different majors and different ages to get their input on how they learned to read and write, what their current attitudes towards reading and writing are, what types of reading and writing they currently do, and what their favorite types of reading and writing are. We weren't really trying to persuade anything, but just showing that everyone learns in a different way. I think that our video worked pretty well, but I know that there could be some improvements. I hope that the readers get the sense that everyone basically learns differently and that there isn't one set way on learning how to do it. If given more time, I probably would have tried to find a couple English majors to see what their professional input was and maybe try to be more creative with the video and make it more entertaining.
URL: http://amandapaigemily.webs.com/
URL: http://amandapaigemily.webs.com/
Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Feb. 22nd Homework
Johns Summary:
In her article "Discourse Communities and Communities of Practice", Ann John discusses how discourse communities and communities of practice relate to one another. She also argues about the different types of conflicts that can occur within both the discourse communities and communities of practice.
QD: 1-6
1. Some complications Johns outlines that are related to joining a discourse community is that money plays a big factor. If you don't have money, then it can be pretty difficult to join certain discourse communities. She also talks about authority. If you don't have a high authority within the community, then that can become a pretty big problem.
2. I believe what Johns is trying to say here is that the opinions and values of someone can change, based on who they meet and the way they affect them. If someone new comes into the discourse community and totally blows everyone away with a new way of thinking about something, then they have helped changed the discourse community. An example of this in historical terms is when the Bill of Rights was re written based on different views.
3. I don't really think that my sense of self, values, or beliefs ever really changed when I became a part of a new discourse community because I've always had the same values. Because I went to a private and public school, I've been around all sorts of different people with different beliefs and values. I respect their own beliefs and values, but I always stay true to mine.
4. I do believe Johns views can impact your identity. Growing up, you are always trying to discover who you are. In the process, you go through many things that help you figure out who you truly are. Reading and writing can play a factor in that self discovery.
5. I don't really believe that I have much authority over the writings I've done, because we are always given an assignment sheet that has what is expected on the paper and how it needs to be written, which doesn't really give us a change to really express ourselves.
6. It is considered a "minefield" because when you are breaking the rules, you don't really know how far you can go and what result you'll end up with. I have never really been in this situation, but sometimes teachers tell me what I could add in my papers to make them better.
MM:
Understanding what Johns is writing about may make you not want to abide by the rules of a new discourse community because they can make you try to change your own beliefs and values to match theirs.
Response:
I thought she made a lot of interesting points throughout her article. It really helped me in what to basically expect if I decide to become part of a new discourse community and I liked how she gave multiple examples to get us thinking about things that we never really thought about before.
In her article "Discourse Communities and Communities of Practice", Ann John discusses how discourse communities and communities of practice relate to one another. She also argues about the different types of conflicts that can occur within both the discourse communities and communities of practice.
QD: 1-6
1. Some complications Johns outlines that are related to joining a discourse community is that money plays a big factor. If you don't have money, then it can be pretty difficult to join certain discourse communities. She also talks about authority. If you don't have a high authority within the community, then that can become a pretty big problem.
2. I believe what Johns is trying to say here is that the opinions and values of someone can change, based on who they meet and the way they affect them. If someone new comes into the discourse community and totally blows everyone away with a new way of thinking about something, then they have helped changed the discourse community. An example of this in historical terms is when the Bill of Rights was re written based on different views.
3. I don't really think that my sense of self, values, or beliefs ever really changed when I became a part of a new discourse community because I've always had the same values. Because I went to a private and public school, I've been around all sorts of different people with different beliefs and values. I respect their own beliefs and values, but I always stay true to mine.
4. I do believe Johns views can impact your identity. Growing up, you are always trying to discover who you are. In the process, you go through many things that help you figure out who you truly are. Reading and writing can play a factor in that self discovery.
5. I don't really believe that I have much authority over the writings I've done, because we are always given an assignment sheet that has what is expected on the paper and how it needs to be written, which doesn't really give us a change to really express ourselves.
6. It is considered a "minefield" because when you are breaking the rules, you don't really know how far you can go and what result you'll end up with. I have never really been in this situation, but sometimes teachers tell me what I could add in my papers to make them better.
MM:
Understanding what Johns is writing about may make you not want to abide by the rules of a new discourse community because they can make you try to change your own beliefs and values to match theirs.
Response:
I thought she made a lot of interesting points throughout her article. It really helped me in what to basically expect if I decide to become part of a new discourse community and I liked how she gave multiple examples to get us thinking about things that we never really thought about before.
Feb. 20th Homework
Swales Summary:
In his article "The Concept of Discourse Community", John Swales discusses the 6 guidelines included in a discourse community. He also argues that discourse community doesn't have a clear definition and gives a definition of what a discourse community really is and gives examples. Swales also argues that there are many different discourse communities, but all in all, the definition of discourse community stays the same.
QD: 1, 3, 5
1. The six characteristics of a discourse communities according to Swales include:
A: The community shares common goals. An example is that my volleyball and softball team shared a discourse community because we all shared the common goal of winning games and learning the game in the same way.
B: The discourse community has a certain way of communicating with each other and has a set of standards that they follow. An example of this is with me and my friends. We all have a specific way that we talk to each other and we have inside jokes that only we understand and for people that aren't in our group don't really understand what we're saying.
C: The discourse community has a way of receiving and giving information. The example I would use with this is in America, it's very common now a days that if you need to get something out, you just send a text message or e-mail to that person and they send you one back and that's just an effective way to communicate.
D: A discourse community uses their own type of language so that another discourse community can't copy them. An example would be that someone may use bigger words or something in a paper so that whoever is trying to copy them won't be able to understand what they are saying, therefore unable to copy them.
E: The discourse community forms their own language in a way that only the people in the community understands what is being said. An example of this is during softball, we had plays that had special names that only we knew what meant.
F: The people in the community must be on or around the same level to actually contribute to the community. An example is like when your learning something new in math class and your in a group, you need to be on the same level of understanding to get the job done.
3. According to Swales, a first-year college classroom would not be considered as a discourse community because they are more focused on their own views and opinions and aren't around each other enough to have the same views. However, with a graduate class, they could be a discourse community because they have been around each other for many years and have learned to share common goals.
5. A discourse community that I belong to is my group of friends. We all basically have the same goals, which is to get through college and make a better life for ourselves, as well as being teenagers and having fun when it's acceptable to. Our lexis is basically like our inside jokes, which have a lot of meaning behind, but someone that isn't really a part of our group won't understand. Our genres is how we set our prioritizes.
MM:
There was a lot of things that I was already pretty aware of when it came to discourse communities, but I did learn a little more about them because Swales gives pretty good examples and made it easier to understand.
Swales Response:
I really enjoyed reading this article, because it gave me a better understanding of how discourse communities work and made me think about the discourse communities that I'm involved in.
Gee Summary:
In his article "Literacy, Discourse, and Linguistics", James Paul Gee attempts to show the difference between Discourses and discourse communities. He argues that people must be fluent in order to engage in a Discourse and it can't be taught, but rather, can be learned if someone sits and listens carefully for some amount of time.
QD: 3-8, 11, 12
3. According to Gee, Discourse (capital D) is a combination of saying (writing), doing, being, valuing, and believing. Discourse community (lowercase d) is more focused on the language of the whole community. This makes sense to me because it is very well distinguished and he gives very clear definitions and examples.
4. Primary Discourse: The one we first use to make sense of the world and interact with others.
Secondary Discourse: Social institutions commands and demands one or more Discourses and we acquire these fluently to the extent that we are given access to these institutions and are allowed apprenticeships within them.
Dominant Discourse: Secondary Discourses the mastery of which, at a particular place and time, brings with it the acquistion of social goods, such as money, prestige, and status.
Non-dominant Discourse: Secondary Discourses the mastery of which often brings solidarity with a particular social network, but not wider status and social goods in society at large.
5. "Discourses are connected with displays of an identity" means that Discourse is mainly about one's identity. The implications are that you need to have a certain identity to be a part of a certain Discourse.
6. Each Discourse has their own sets of beliefs and values that they were taught to believe in. This ties in with Discourse and identity because within every Discourse, you have to have a certain identity.
7. What he is basically saying is that members within a certain Discourse have their own language and they can clearly tell when someone is not from their community because they may not talk the same or be able to effectively talk to other members in the community. An example of this is during softball, whenever the other team would call out plays, no one on my team ever knew what they were about to do, because that was part of their Discourse.
8. I think Discourse "tests" happen because many countries/cities may not like outsiders in their territory and it could be beneficial because it's very obvious when someone that is not part of your Discourse and they could kick those people out.
11. Meta knowledge is having to translate another language in relation to your own language and it cause you to become more aware of how your first language works.
12. I know I'm a part of my Discourse because I understand the language of my group and I can effectively communicate with them in ways that we all understand.
AEI: 2 & 4
2. The primary Discourse I was born into was New Lexington, which is in Perry County. Outsiders typically think of Perry county people as "hicks" and "hillbillies" and basically like to say that we aren't the brightest people around and that we have a "southern accent". Outsiders also believed that our school systems weren't any good and didn't prepare us for the real world, which I'd definitely have to disagree with both of those statements. We do have that "country" side to us, but that doesn't make EVERYONE "hicks", "hillbillies", or "stupid". Also, my school did a very well job of preparing me for college. It's just a bad sterotype that we have been labeled with.
4. The Discourses that I'm mainly involved with is my schooling Discourse and my family/friends Discourse. With my schooling Discourse, I act in a very professional manner, but with my family/friends, I tend to goof off a lot and joke around. I know better than to goof off with my schooling. I navigate through this by knowing when and where specific behavior is acceptable and when it's appropriate to do it.
Response:
I actually liked this article because it gave me a much better understanding of Discourses and it made me better understand my own Discourses that I'm involved in.
In his article "The Concept of Discourse Community", John Swales discusses the 6 guidelines included in a discourse community. He also argues that discourse community doesn't have a clear definition and gives a definition of what a discourse community really is and gives examples. Swales also argues that there are many different discourse communities, but all in all, the definition of discourse community stays the same.
QD: 1, 3, 5
1. The six characteristics of a discourse communities according to Swales include:
A: The community shares common goals. An example is that my volleyball and softball team shared a discourse community because we all shared the common goal of winning games and learning the game in the same way.
B: The discourse community has a certain way of communicating with each other and has a set of standards that they follow. An example of this is with me and my friends. We all have a specific way that we talk to each other and we have inside jokes that only we understand and for people that aren't in our group don't really understand what we're saying.
C: The discourse community has a way of receiving and giving information. The example I would use with this is in America, it's very common now a days that if you need to get something out, you just send a text message or e-mail to that person and they send you one back and that's just an effective way to communicate.
D: A discourse community uses their own type of language so that another discourse community can't copy them. An example would be that someone may use bigger words or something in a paper so that whoever is trying to copy them won't be able to understand what they are saying, therefore unable to copy them.
E: The discourse community forms their own language in a way that only the people in the community understands what is being said. An example of this is during softball, we had plays that had special names that only we knew what meant.
F: The people in the community must be on or around the same level to actually contribute to the community. An example is like when your learning something new in math class and your in a group, you need to be on the same level of understanding to get the job done.
3. According to Swales, a first-year college classroom would not be considered as a discourse community because they are more focused on their own views and opinions and aren't around each other enough to have the same views. However, with a graduate class, they could be a discourse community because they have been around each other for many years and have learned to share common goals.
5. A discourse community that I belong to is my group of friends. We all basically have the same goals, which is to get through college and make a better life for ourselves, as well as being teenagers and having fun when it's acceptable to. Our lexis is basically like our inside jokes, which have a lot of meaning behind, but someone that isn't really a part of our group won't understand. Our genres is how we set our prioritizes.
MM:
There was a lot of things that I was already pretty aware of when it came to discourse communities, but I did learn a little more about them because Swales gives pretty good examples and made it easier to understand.
Swales Response:
I really enjoyed reading this article, because it gave me a better understanding of how discourse communities work and made me think about the discourse communities that I'm involved in.
Gee Summary:
In his article "Literacy, Discourse, and Linguistics", James Paul Gee attempts to show the difference between Discourses and discourse communities. He argues that people must be fluent in order to engage in a Discourse and it can't be taught, but rather, can be learned if someone sits and listens carefully for some amount of time.
QD: 3-8, 11, 12
3. According to Gee, Discourse (capital D) is a combination of saying (writing), doing, being, valuing, and believing. Discourse community (lowercase d) is more focused on the language of the whole community. This makes sense to me because it is very well distinguished and he gives very clear definitions and examples.
4. Primary Discourse: The one we first use to make sense of the world and interact with others.
Secondary Discourse: Social institutions commands and demands one or more Discourses and we acquire these fluently to the extent that we are given access to these institutions and are allowed apprenticeships within them.
Dominant Discourse: Secondary Discourses the mastery of which, at a particular place and time, brings with it the acquistion of social goods, such as money, prestige, and status.
Non-dominant Discourse: Secondary Discourses the mastery of which often brings solidarity with a particular social network, but not wider status and social goods in society at large.
5. "Discourses are connected with displays of an identity" means that Discourse is mainly about one's identity. The implications are that you need to have a certain identity to be a part of a certain Discourse.
6. Each Discourse has their own sets of beliefs and values that they were taught to believe in. This ties in with Discourse and identity because within every Discourse, you have to have a certain identity.
7. What he is basically saying is that members within a certain Discourse have their own language and they can clearly tell when someone is not from their community because they may not talk the same or be able to effectively talk to other members in the community. An example of this is during softball, whenever the other team would call out plays, no one on my team ever knew what they were about to do, because that was part of their Discourse.
8. I think Discourse "tests" happen because many countries/cities may not like outsiders in their territory and it could be beneficial because it's very obvious when someone that is not part of your Discourse and they could kick those people out.
11. Meta knowledge is having to translate another language in relation to your own language and it cause you to become more aware of how your first language works.
12. I know I'm a part of my Discourse because I understand the language of my group and I can effectively communicate with them in ways that we all understand.
AEI: 2 & 4
2. The primary Discourse I was born into was New Lexington, which is in Perry County. Outsiders typically think of Perry county people as "hicks" and "hillbillies" and basically like to say that we aren't the brightest people around and that we have a "southern accent". Outsiders also believed that our school systems weren't any good and didn't prepare us for the real world, which I'd definitely have to disagree with both of those statements. We do have that "country" side to us, but that doesn't make EVERYONE "hicks", "hillbillies", or "stupid". Also, my school did a very well job of preparing me for college. It's just a bad sterotype that we have been labeled with.
4. The Discourses that I'm mainly involved with is my schooling Discourse and my family/friends Discourse. With my schooling Discourse, I act in a very professional manner, but with my family/friends, I tend to goof off a lot and joke around. I know better than to goof off with my schooling. I navigate through this by knowing when and where specific behavior is acceptable and when it's appropriate to do it.
Response:
I actually liked this article because it gave me a much better understanding of Discourses and it made me better understand my own Discourses that I'm involved in.
Thursday, February 16, 2012
Paper #3 Cover Letter
For this paper, we were mainly trying to show how people have different ways to learn about literacy. Our main purpose was to show that different people had different ways and literary sponsors that taught them how to read and write.We conducted interviews with 6 OU students and an librarian, whom were all different majors and different ages to get their input on how they learned to read and write, what their current attitudes towards reading and writing are, what types of reading and writing they currently do, and what their favorite types of reading and writing are. We weren't really trying to persuade anything, but just showing that everyone learns in a different way. I think that our video worked pretty well, but I know that there could be some improvements. I hope that the readers get the sense that everyone basically learns differently and that there isn't one set way on learning how to do it. If given more time, I probably would have tried to find a couple English majors to see what their professional input was and maybe try to be more creative with the video and make it more entertaining.
link: should be on Amanda's blog
link: should be on Amanda's blog
Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Feb. 15th homework
Summary:
In their article "Motivation in Literacy Development", Tyler Cecchini and Hugo Perez discuss how students motivate themselves how to read. They interviewed 8 students to see where they learned their literacy from. Their studies found that they mainly learned everything from their parents/family and their motivations included hobbies and technology.
Questions:
1. I don't believe that the authors put themselves in their writing.
2. When I write, I normally refer to myself in 1st person instead of 3rd person.
Response:
I really enjoyed this article because it gave some really good insight on how to motivate myself and who their main literacy sponsors are.
In their article "Motivation in Literacy Development", Tyler Cecchini and Hugo Perez discuss how students motivate themselves how to read. They interviewed 8 students to see where they learned their literacy from. Their studies found that they mainly learned everything from their parents/family and their motivations included hobbies and technology.
Questions:
1. I don't believe that the authors put themselves in their writing.
2. When I write, I normally refer to myself in 1st person instead of 3rd person.
Response:
I really enjoyed this article because it gave some really good insight on how to motivate myself and who their main literacy sponsors are.
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